There, there

There, there is proposed to be featured on lumbung radio and is planned to be launched in the fall of 2023. The podcast is defined as a listening experience that explores cultural practices of radical inclusion and openness to various voices and perspectives driven by the notion of solidarity and care while addressing complex topics of migration, struggles under oppressive regimes (institutional, social, and political), and surviving under the conditions of climate change and late capitalism. Given that these downing paradigms overlap, the project finds its positionality on terrains of what could be referred to as “optimism in despair.” With the podcast, we hope to create a virtual space where productive discussions and artistic experiments could drive constructive forms of gaining agency and participation/ taking political action.

With various interpretations at hand, the podcast of radical openness to diverse voices and stories engages with the following:

1) There, there – as a form of repetition and the power of sonic expression – is open to various contributions through sound pieces, sonic arts, field recordings, sonic explorations, and commentaries.

2) There, there – as a temporal aspect and projection of the future driven by “optimism in/over despair” – is open to conversations and reflections on forms of futurity.

3) There, there – as a reference to spatial, planetary, and geographic conditions – is open to stories and explorations about migration and transitioning.

4) There, there – as a form of relational work and practices of care – addresses participatory forms of engagement as a form of decolonial project, immanent critique, and decolonial thinking through art and practice.

On a regular basis, There, there plans to release podcasts in contrasting formats (addressing specific interpretations of “There, there” mentioned above). This is aligned with the lumbung radio’s values by proposing the format of radical openness, with only one predicament of accentuating care and solidarity notions. By thinking and testing non-hierarchical formats of various formats for experience sharing and knowledge dissemination, we hope to learn through practice. This podcast attempts this project of commoning, sharing, and engaging with changes through action and agency.

Driven by all the values mentioned above, the project also incorporates various local and trans-local sub-programs: collaborations, community workshops, shared listening sessions, educational projects, and more.

The release of There,there podcasts will be announced here and on the lumbung radio website.

We are part of the lumbung inter-local online community, therefore a few words about them:

lumbung Radio
is an inter-local online community radio part of documenta fifteen. It’s an open online broadcast that comprises of an inter-local network of distinct radios and audio practices. It operates in no specific time zones, and streams multiple languages, music, and art. Each participating radio station depends on its own means of production, way of thinking, learning, and sharing. lumbung Radio operates as a decentralized network of nodes that uses internet without its hegemonic agency. The intention is producing an audiophonic common space built on the multiplication of the existing practices of its contributors.

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There, there working group, is an open collaboration which hosts and connects ideas in a disseminated and decentralised way. It was initiated by Lena Pozdnyakova, Eldar Tagi and Luise Willer, but invites many others. Their interests align when it comes to imagining playful ways of engaging with the public, practices of solidarity and complement in experimental ways of working. Their experiences range from visual and sonic arts to research, curatorial practices and institutional work.

Luise Willer, is a Berlin-based researcher and organizer. Currently, she is a member of the CRC “Intervening Arts” at Free University, Berlin. In her research, Luise is interested in socially engaged artistic practices, in particular their forms of assembling and organizing. She examines such practices to learn about their visions of futurity, their collaborative processes and their critique of institutions. Previously, Luise studied global art history and museum studies at the University of Heidelberg at the Ecole du Louvre and gathered experiences in several curatorial contexts, among others, as a curatorial assistant at the Centre Pompidou in Paris.

Lena Pozdnyakova, is an artist, curator, and researcher from Almaty, Kazakhstan, currently based in Berlin, Germany. The scope of her work in collaborative projects and research involves questions related to the culture-nature relationship and blurring the boundary between life and art. Since 2016, Lena has been working towards expanding her work to embrace more socially engaged projects through collaboration, practices of care, intergenerational work, and community involvement. She is currently a doctoral student at Free University in Berlin, in the Institute of Art History, and an associate member of the CRC “Intervening Arts.”

Eldar Tagi, a multi-instrumentalist and composer originally from Kazakhstan, is now based in Berlin, Germany. His live improvised performances use a range of instruments, including computers, field recordings, analog modular synthesizers, daxophone, guitars, other stringed instruments, found objects, and self-made sound-makers.

Sabrina Herrmann, is a researcher with an interest in the intersection of human rights, arts and gender. She has a background in cultural studies and art history and has been working amongst others as research fellow at documenta Institut, Kassel and as curatorial assistant and public program coordinator at KW Institute for Contemporary Art, Berlin. Currently, Sabrina is realizing a PhD project where she examines artistic strategies to address human rights (violations) with a focus on gender-based violence.

Anna Kücking, is an artist and organizer, she works in theatre and journalism for newspapers like taz. die tageszeitung and neues deutschland. Anna writes and works on topics such as classism, social justice and social policy and is active in the self-advocacy of careleavers, i.e. people who have grown up in youth welfare, as well as in political education.

Germain, is a DJ and composer based in Paris. His non-club-oriented composition work mainly focuses on conveying the essence of a place or time through organic sounds and instruments. He also works in the field of podcast and editorial strategy for several French media outlets and institutions.

Maria Aus , is a visual artist specialized in filmmaking & photography. She experiments with various media and techniques, creating thought-provoking art and often inspiring people to find a deeper meaning beyond even her own anticipation.